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increases. 36% say that obama is more to blame for not agreeing to more spending cuts and 15% blame both sides. joining us now from new york, julie riganski, a democratic strategist and here in washington, steven moore, a member of the "wall street journal" editorial board. sesteven, let's start with you. great to hear harry reid on this. the last time i checked the do so called proposal that a he put forth in july didn't really receive any support and only dealt with tax increases. it wasn't a comprehensive deal and didn't involve real spending cuts it was just raise tax and it went no where. for him to blame republicans, come on. >> don't forget, it has been 13 hyundais since hair arery reid even passed a budget out of the united states senate. we don't even know what the united states senators stand for in terms of the budget debate. the same thing on taxes. the house actually passed a lot of people don't know that earlier this year the house passed a bill to extend all of the bush era tax cuts for another year until resolve the issue. the senate again didn't act on that. the grave ya
be spending them, soon. >> david, thank you. president obama cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to return to bash wash -- bash bash. -- washington he's going to work on a deal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. there are five days remaining before hikes are scheduled to take affect. senate due back in session tomorrow nork indication of new proposals on the table. no word of negotiations sessions being scheduled, either. >> still ahead here at 5:00 a controversial battle that shut down a popular recycling center comes to an end. looming deadline for a 30-year-old institution. >> and a bed bug outbreak in the east bay. unique boot camp officials hope will use to squash a growing problem. >> a warning about hidden fees on gift cards that may whittle away the value. did you get one? want to see that report. the news continues in one minute. >>> a san francisco recycling center is scheduled to be closed this weekend. the neighborhood counsel's recycling center has been fighting falls for city hall to be shut down since 1996. the city says this operation has been attracting the hom
and higher taxes and spending cuts will automatically take effect. president obama has cut short his holiday to revive the talks. >> if we go over this cliff, the house of representative with four days left are not here with the speaker having told him that he will have 458 hours' notice. i cannot imagine their conscience out there wherever they are around the country and we are trying to get something done. >> why is the american economy teetering on the edge of the cliffs? these are some of the things that president obama is trying to prevent with the return to the lighthouse. an employment has fallen to a four year low and currently stands at 7.7%. no deal could mean 2.1 million jobs disappearing parent to it would equate to a contraction of 1.5% in the value of all goods and services america producers meaning less money to afraid with the rest of the world. as far as the republicans concerned, there is that we will not give you a blank check. >> mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, said that he thought there was still time to avert what he called a budgetary fiscal crisi
to get spending under control. but, president obama has failed to bring anything up to the -- on the table, and, especially the democrats, they have been silently on entitlement reform and silent on the spending cuts and as we know, we can talk about raising taxes on the rich. but, you know, it is like having a dad with a college daughter and they need to cut up the credit cards if they are spending too much. you have to cut the spending in order to get the -- the trillion-dollar debts under control, $16 trillion -- >> rick: could it backfire for the president? it seems like, he feels like he has the wind in his sails and looks like all the stars, politically speaking are aligned for democrats. and for the president. but could he overplay it? >> look, this is a high-risk poker game. if you are the president, again, you feel like you litigated this tax issue, certainly during the campaign and won and by and large has substantial margins in his favor relative to republicans in congress, now we get to january 1, it's not a cliff, as you know, there is a slope and it is
steps away from the fiscal cliff. the automatic tax increases and spending cuts kick in january 1 unless lawmakers find some common ground. cbs reporter danielle nottingham on what both sides are saying about the looming deadline. >> reporter: congressional leaders met with president obama at the white house, trying to avoid the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in january 1. the president reminded lawmakers there's not much time left. >> we're now at the point where, in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. >> reporter: senators harry reid and mitch mcconnell returned to the senate floor, pledging to work through the weekend. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> we're gonna do the best we can for the caucuses we have and the country that's waiting for us to make a decision. >> reporter: democratic and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. but the income threshol
in annual spending cuts were agreed to under president obama as part of the debt ceiling negotiation. those begin on tuesday. we have the payroll tax cut in place for two years, takes about two percentage points off people's taxes, bill will end on monday. business tax breaks, bill will end on monday. the alternative minimum tax, which is confusing, but it would be a disaster if that was not taken care of, because it would raise the taxes of about 30 million americans for their 2012 income and 2013. and all the confusion could screw up the whole tax filing season. who knows when you will be filing your taxes, because the irs does not know which tax rates will be applied and who will be responsible for paying what. so it's going to be a mess if this is not handled quickly. host: if we are sitting here a month from now after the inauguration and there's still no final agreement on taxes, could that the label 15 -- guest: no doubt about it. secretary dieter even said that a few days ago. --secretary tim geithner. it could delay the tax filings. the government relies on august revenue to come i
people. that proposed almost $3 trillion in spending cuts. president obama's last offer, the one that the republicans rejected, was less than $1 trillion in spending cuts. we checked. that would be less than 2% of the $44 trillion the government will spend over the next decade. again, is that the best democrats can do? 2% of all the spending over the next decade? >> you know, this conversation means exactly what is wrong in washington. i mean, just listen to the conversation you just had. it is he said/she said, blame the other guy. and, look, i tried to be constructive here and lay out an actual plan to get us nearly $4 trillion, by taking the offers that are on the table. speaker boe president were so close and then speaker boehner went off on plan b. i never understood why. had no prospect of succeeding. it did not succeed, even in his own caucus. but now -- >> you are not answering my question. >> yes. because i'll tell you, something, because we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me, he says he
on the table is he close to a trillion dollars he is simply saying i want a trillion dollars in spending as well. president obama is he close to the same number they are about $300 billion apart. they are 1 hers apart from this whole deal. the problem is they are not putting spending cuts on the table. what they're doing is putting proposed possible cuts but the stimulus spending they are putting on the table also offsets that tax increase that he wants. still looking at trillion-dollar deficit. that just goes to show spending cuts. right now we don't have them. talks about them and there is accounting fuzzy math going on but there is not any serious entitlement reform. we can't just wait and talk about that in january. needs to be included in any package before we go forward. >> you know, juan, the point she is making when we talk about spending cuts. basically a guy pulling the olives off a meat lover's pizza and saying he is on a diet. something so incidental and ignoring this huge huge problem this black hole that is spending. it's true. we are going nowhere. >> no, i disagree. you k
the absence of spending cuts on president obama and they know the taxes will go up anyway regardless of what they do if they don't pass anything and they would make the argument they would limit the tax cut and speaker boehner has made the same argument. >> thank you so much. we want to show people what is going on with the after markets because even though john says people are optimistic the markets are not optimistic. right now if the dow jones industrial average were to open at this moment it would be down 315 points. that's a reflection of the futures trading that happens in the after-hours. we'll see how asia opens on monday and right now the markets do not like what they see. they are not optimistic at this point and maybe if a mini deal gets done, a mini deal is not enough to deal with what the country faces. after all of this time the president still wants congress to come up with a plan instead of assuming the leadership mantle himself. let's talk to a member of congress about that. james langford serves in the house budget committee and he joins me now. sir, have you conceded you'r
. >> number number 2. >> project that obama will be re-elected. >> the election was about social. >> spending cutting, about what kind role government should have in your life. >> number 1. the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming but didn't bother to pay attention until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier who knows how strong the economy would be right now. >> coming up, a five-days for a woman. she gets the news she has been waiting to hear on her missing teen daughter. >>> and we are taking a look back at the year. the most outstanding student athletes of the year. >>> those and more coming up at six. now a preview of world news at 6:30. >> coming up, american companies saying thank you. thank you america for make this a great made in america christmas. . >>> you have heard of downward facing dog? even if you haven't chances are your children have. we have more on the latest craze for children. yoga. >> reporter: some say yoga is the fattest growing sport in the nation with 20 million practicing regularly. the latest trend is an ever
eye on the looming fiscal cliff. the deadline for across the board tax increases and deep spending cuts is just four days away. president obama is scheduled to meet with congressional leaders at the white house this afternoon. senate majority leader harry reid says the likelihood of reaching a deal is a long shot. but senator charles schumer told the "today" show that the odds are better than people think. if a deal were to pass, senate house speaker john boehner would have to agree to take it to the floor of the republican controlled house. danielle nottingham has more. >> reporter: president obama is meeting today at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the closed door discussions are an attempt to reach a last- minute agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in on january 1st. >> probably the worst case scenario will come out of this maybe today and -- meeting today and
they have with the sequester. these are automatic spending cuts. the obama doesn't want them. this is leverage point for republicans. adam: you're an economist. we're journalists and we're only good for free drinks. are we going over the cliff? >> i think it is undeniable the economy falls into recession if we do go over the fiscal cliff. even chairman bernanke was very clear on this point telling everyone if the economy goes over the fiscal cliff even the fed itself does not have you have enough tools to go over against the impact. in terms of lack of investment and in terms of businesses closing their doors and remaining sidelined still for quarters going into 2013. adam: well, lindsey, you again are an economist. which is worse, the spending cut from the sequestration or the tax increase? which hits us, 310 million of us are american citizens. which hits us worse? >> well generally when we talk about the difference between spending cuts or tax increases you have to think of taxes as having 1 1/2 times the impact because what that does, there is a trickle down, in fact. we
, children's health care, medicaid, and obama said, no, if we're going to cut spending, we're going to protect the most vul nebl. protecting the most vulnerable takes it away and all that's left is cutting taxes. if the goal is to reduce the deficit, their goal of cutting taxes is not relevant to that goal so there's no overlap of potential agreement here. that's why there's no deal. >> let's take a listen to a very conservative retiring senator said, soon to be former senator joe lieberman, who is respected and seen as a deal maker. what we need right now is a deal. let's take a listen to something he just said. >> if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> joy, i think what he's saying there and going over the cliff is not that this would be the worst thing congress has done on an objective scale, but the notion of doing something so bad for no reason is pretty frustrating, isn't it? >> i disagree with his characterization it would be the most irresponsible thing.
obama says that congress must act now to avoid economic disaster. he has been meeting with republican and democratic leaders to reach a deal to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts that take effect january 1. >> the hour-long meeting with president barack obama was the first face-to-face session together with both republican leaders of the latest fiscal crisis. obama said he was modestly optimistic about the agreement by senate leaders on a compromise bill that could be voted on by monday. that is just two days before 6 under billion dollars of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts begin to take effect -- $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> we want to make sure that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people and lay the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> we are working hard to get there in the next 24 hours. i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> whenever we come up with will be imperfect. some people will not like it, some people will like it les
, response to the part about spending cuts, and what is spending cuts is the obama administration talking about, guaranteed spending cuts? >> they already accepted a trillion dollars in domestic spending cuts in next 10 years. they put on the table additional cuts in medicare and social security not as much as republicans want but clearly they have moved on that. and i also think there will be substantial defense cuts, if we want to make a dent in the deficit. i mean this is the choice that is going to be in front of us. if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine months we could see substantial progress towards smart fiscal policy in the country
're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says, no, let's raise taxes instead, now we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities that were not -- for four years obama's done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing, nothing, nothing, for four years. a lot of golf. nothing on entitlement reform. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. so it's -- there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest, and work. and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal, though. >> it is, it is, absolutely. >> it's not. >> you live in new york. i live in d.c. >> yeah. >> washington. this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the
that obama will discuss measures for avoiding the rest of the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that will bite if lawmakers fail to come up with a plan. >> pessimism remains the prevailing mood in washington as the january deadline rapidly approaches. neither democrats nor republicans have any new proposals for a workable compromise. >> the starbucks coffee chain has urged its workers in washington, d.c., area to write "come together" on the cups, a plea for party leaders to work out a compromise, but some customers say that is not enough. >> i mean, i like with starbucks is riding on the cups. i wish they would write, like, something else, like "republicans, stop being stupid." >> i think the solution will probably be neutered and not very effective, but ultimately, i think they will avoid the fiscal cliff. >> but neither side appears willing to give in. democrats, for example, are frustrated that republicans will not agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> the majority of rich people in our great country are willing to pay more. the only people who disagree with that are repub
by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will take deep effect. >> president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. >> with the first of our year enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, struggling economy and voter doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the front runner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against president obama. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. after 50 primary contests, romney clenched the nomination and it was on to the general election. >> it will be a choice between -- >> two very different paths. >> reporter: their battle focused on the economy. >> we can't afford another four years like the last four years. >> we need more tax cuts for working americans. >> reporter: early on, two key moments changed the subject that helped
three days to go before the fiscal cliff when tax heights and spending cuts kick in. president obama and congressional leaders are meeting at the white house right now trying to figure out a way to avoid it. negotiation have been under way for about an hour. steve handelsman joins us. so far no deal? >> i'm checking. so far the meeting continues, which could be a bad sign, can it? sources here on the hill say in today's meeting president obama planned to be kind of tough, figuring that he has gotten the advantage back to the extent anybody has the advantage this close to the cliff and that he'll push hi original demand, the tack rates rise on income over a quarter million dollars. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid-november of the four congressional leaders, democrats and republicans at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker jane boehner, the key figure. >> the fact that he's come back and the four of them are at the table means to me we could come up with some kind of agreement. >> reporter: both sides want a deal to avoid tax hikes that could cost
it the obama cliff and said we should swan dive over the cliff because it would be one thing democrats could get through their head when they cut spending. >> i agree completely. this is crazy that we're even having that discussion, eric. august spending 256-171 the ryan budget was passed extending tax relief for all americans. 19 democrats voted for that. it was handed to mr. reid, mr. obama starting the warfare about taxing the rich. reid sat on the bill. why didn't he bring it up for a vote? why didn't it get fair debate? mr. reid hasn't passed a budget and we going to believe they're serious about the fiscal problems? let's go offense the cliff. >> we have two cameras outside the white house right now. that one i believe is perched on pennsylvania avenue and we have another camera which is perched facing the side entrance. those are the suvs that likely boehner, mcconnell, pelosi and reid will come out of. let's talk about the deal. what if there's a deal, craig, for, i don't know, say 4 hr $500,000 the threshold of who gets taxes and who keeps -- everybody under that number keeps their
. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's expectations is what the obama campaign said they were going to do, was that they were going to turn out an electorate in 2012 that looked very much like the electorate in 2008, that they were going to get huge numbers of african americans and young people. that they were going to mobilize the hispanic vote. a lot of republicans couldn't believe these polling numbers. there were so much talk of skewed polls. after the election the romney campaign said they just couldn't believe that the obama operation was capable of doing this. >> karen, to what extent do we think that the electorate that they produced in 2008 and 2012 is a function of obama himself as opposed to the changing face of the country? >> it's both of those things. i mean, it is -- it is unclear whether the kind of appeal
. the crash involved real for cars and were reported just after midnight. >> president obama in congress are looking to keep automatic spending freezes from kicking in a pain has the stor\ed paine has the story >> nancy pelosi, which mcconnell, and john boe hner have four days to reach agreement or spending cuts would take effect. >> both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working. the members of house of represented or out watching movies, and watching the kids play soccer, basketball, and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told president i will be happy to look at what ever he proposes. a hard deadline. as i said this is the conversation we should of had to go. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more per year. republicans remain against any tax increases. >> most americans just wasn't begun. >> people are tired. >> islamic not reach a deal by january 1st many economists are concerned it could lead to another recession. >> ibm ed paine reporting. >>
and the republicans to do a deal with obama. the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlements, all he has to do is raise the age from social security to 65 to 67, m
a plan to avert spending cuts and big tax hikes january 1st. president obama is calling on congress to craft at least a minimal deal and confident both sides will come to an agreement. this week, republicans rejected an alternative tax plan by speaker john boehner, that would have prevented taxes from rising on income under one million a year. well, there's a new law getting ugly for the good looking. iowa supreme court bosses can legally fire anybody they see as an irresisttable atraction, he fired her because he felt she was attraction to his fidelity to his wife. >> neil: get ready for new fees to fly in the new year. from southwest airlines. you miss a flight and don't cancel your discount ticket, you're going to pay up. overweight bags get ready to lighten up your wallet more. if you're overweight get ready to be killed. just-- (laughter) southwest says it needs the money. what about letting us keep them. >> it's so ridiculous and makes me so-- the airlines fees are like tattoos, never ever go away they just go up, up, up, up. >> neil: that depends where the tattoos are. i do.
we reach the fiscal cliff -- president obama is launching a last-ditch effort to avoid tax increases and spending caps set to take effect january. the president is set -- set to meet with house and senate majority leader's for the first time since november. this comes after the partisan bickering with democrats and republicans blaming each other for failing to reach a deal. this morning the nation is remembering retired general norman schwarzkopf, who died thursday of complications from pneumonia. he is known for leading allied forces in the 1991 gulf war walk caption during -- capturing the public imagination. >> norman schwarzkopf a little- known u.s. army general looking to retirement. then saddam hussein invaded kuwait and norman became a household name. he turned into the face of the u.s.-led counterattack called youoperation desert storm. >> let me put it this -- it will take as long as it takes for a iraqis to get out of kuwait and the united nations resolution to be enforced. >> the campaign culminated in a massive ground offensive, routing the iraqis in 100 hours. >> the nav
will be smaller than what president obama wanted, but will come separate from spending cuts, at least at the outset, and another set of negotiations after the new year, that will have spending cuts and taxes in it. it seems to me that that's a recipe for republicans to end up getting a lot more in taxes than they would have got in all with an up-front deal. are your colleagues worried about that at all, or are you? >> first of all, you're enlightening me on something i'm not aware of. that was not the conversation i had with my colleagues across the aisle and that wasn't the conversation i had with the minority leader. so you have information that i don't have. look, you can't solve the problem with taxes. you have to do both. this country is in trouble, fiscally and financially as well as ratings. and if weap don't do something significant, we'll see another rating cut. and there'll come a time when the interest costs, we cannot afford. so the question comes is, what is the best thing we can do now, given the political dynamics that are in washington that actually make some differenc
were sitting in the oval office now, i know you spend time with president obama, what would you tell him are the lessons he should take from the movie on house of representatives he should conduct himself on a whole range of things over the next term? >> he's got to keep that connection closer with the public closer than it was in the first four years. lincoln had those characters coming into his office every morning. after a while people said you don't have time for these ordinary people. he said you're wrong, these are my public opinion baths. you get a sense of timing, a mastery of timing when you've got the sentiment of the country behind you. but the other lesson is not to be embarrassed about making deal. during the health care thing every deal got exposed and it looks like it's the terrible thing. it the end result that matter as long as nothing illegal happens in the meantime. >> you know, doris, you just referenced what for my money is one of the most powerful scenes in the movie "lincoln," daniel day lewis exhibiting great anger and indicating that he is clothed in immense
? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior congressional correspondent. we spoke last hour. you told us that hour speaker john boehner was to convene this conference call to decide whether or not to call the house back into session. we know the senate is supposed to convene, but nothing can, of course, take place until the house is in session as well. do we know the results of that conference call? will boehner reconvene the house? >> reporter: i'm told by a source familiar with the call, which just happened within last hour, as you said, that no decision was made on the schedule or timing for the house. as we talked about an hour ago, the leaders in the house have promised the members that they won't be called back without 48 hours notice. so at t
in washington this afternoon as the nation edges closer to the fiscal cliff. president obama and top congressional leaders will look for common ground to keep automatic tax increases and spending cuts from kicking in. they only have four days to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go over the so- called fiscal cliff. that's when automatic tax increases and spending cuts would take effect. reaching a deal before then what be easy. right now both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we in washington are working while the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president i would be happy to look at whatever he proposes but the truth is we're coming against a hard deadline here. i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> former president george h. w. bush is still in intensive care at a hospital in houston with a stubborn fever. the family is, that he will be out of the i see you sound. the chief of staff said sup
for nearly every american. dramatic spending cuts will kick in. president obama and congress will be back from vacation tomorrow. but will anything get done? >>> plus, wild winter weather sweeping through the country. we'll bring you the latest details on which part of the u.s. could be hit next. cnbc's "worldwide exchange" starts now. >>> and welcome to a special edition of reside worldwide. ross andcle reoff today for boxes day in -- kelly are off today for boxing day. for now, you is us. >> we'll start with a brief check on the markets. energy and metals are trading higher now, wtis up about 55 cents. brent crude up 65 cents. also want to check in on the gold price, as well. gold right now down about slightly under the flat line there, 1,-658. well below the 1,700 mark. the cme globex has been closed for christmas. it's going to reopen at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that goes for treasuries and the foreign exchange market, as well. >> as for action in the overseas markets, the u.k. is closed today for boxing day as are some of the former brish colonies. in europe the dax down about there a
: top congressional leaders met with president obama at the white house, trying to avoid the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in january 1st. the president called the meeting constructive, but reminded lawmakers there's not much time left. >> we're now at the point where in just four days every americans' tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. >>reporter: senators harry reid and mitch mcconnell returned to the senate floor, pledging to work through the weekend. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> we're going to do the best we can for the congresses we have and for the country that's waiting for us to make a decision. >>reporter: democratic and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases, but the income threshold is not yet clear. the president and senate leaders are expressing optimism that they'll get the job done, but the president has a backup plan just in case. >> if an agreement isn't reac
a meeting today with leaders of both political parties. president obama called on congress to quickly come up with a solution. to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is the end- of- the year trigger on tax hikes. and spending cuts. >> in the next few days i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both and deficit reduction. >>pam: house speaker john boehner failed to gain enough of his party's support for his "plan b". that proposal would have raised taxes only on those americans making more than one million dollars a year. without a deal, steep tax hikes and massive government spending cuts are set to kick in after january first. as the fiscal cliff countdown continues. house and senate members and president obama. have all recessed for the christmas holiday. >> the ninth circut court of appeals today blocked a california law which bans the controversial therapy. that aims to turn gay minors. straight. the three judge panel issued
spending part of his christmas holiday visiting troops in hawaii, president obama to resume but the talks. congressional aides said the holiday did not bring much progress and form on the initiations have yet to be scheduled. the senate is to attend the session thursday. when the house will reconvene is still uncertain. >> we were talking about the debt ceiling and it came down the 12 hour, the final few minutes before the deadline to get a full-fledged a grim past. >> some economists fear the combination of budget cuts and higher taxes could trigger another recession, as consumers cut back on spending. others said the deadline is not as firm. congress could pass a temporary measure early in the new year doubled will back any changes. political analysts warn some consequences may be immediate. there may be a tremendous response from financial markets and the stock market. that would alarm everybody. stock prices are hearty dropping friday after a plan -- are already dropping after a plan. a poll shows nearly half of americans are doubtful the sides can settle their differences. >> taxes w
now. but guess what, elections matter. president obama won. but we have got to get meaningful spending cuts. we are going to spend 3.8 trillion laura this year. we are going to bring in only 2.5 trillion. but out of the 2.5, every single penny is spent on the debt and all the entitlements, medicare, medicaid, social security, so unless we are talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts, this discussion about tax increases is just foley. it is absolutely ridiculous. harry reid said that the boehner mr. was dead on arrival. it wasn't going to pass the senate anyway. so, boehner didn't get the support of his members, enough at least and it would have been a vote for not because the senator would have said thanks, no thanks. we are going to have the leverage and we will shove whatever you want down your throats whether you like it or not. the whole situation was kind of ridiculous in the beginning. >> instead of plan b it was sort of plan b.s. it was dead on arrival. it wasn't a bold plan. you need to from o'reilly factor bold plan with fresh faces. p
one, house speaker boehner and president obama still searching for agreement on spending and taxes that both sides can live with. so, is it possible to find a solution in the final ten days before the effects of the fiscal cliff begin? lets bring in our political panel, former economic advisor to president children, former advisor to the senate finance committee and a partner at monument policy group, and president of the new frontier strategy and, executive director of the lieutenant governor's association. >> good work, got that all out. >> heather: is it possible for both sides to bring something passable in the the senate and the house when really, steve centanni said, d.c. is on lockdown and everyone left for christmas vacation. what do you think? >> oh, heather, you know, i wish so. i wish we could get a christmas present under the tree for americans, it has been a long year and we deserve it. the reality is the president is in hawaii and the house is gone until the 27th and the senate is as well. and it is likely to be action for restarting the processing and the discussion
's kidding himself. >> heather: alexis, i'll let you respond to that. because when it comes to spending cuts, president obama says his own, his own words, quote, lays the groundwork for that in the future. the last big budget deal in the summer of 2011, it ended with precisely the same promise, which in turn ended in failure and the fiscal crisis facing the country today. why believe him this time? >> the ball is actually not in his court right now. the ball is in the senate and the house court to come up with a bill that he can sign. so he's trying to set a tone right now about what would be acceptable in the short-term. these long-term issues around entitlements are exactly that, they're long-term issues. to manufacture a decision deadline of 48 hours from now is kind of irresponsible because we're talking about systems that have been around for decades now that many americans depend on. we're talking about systems that are really earned benefits. they're not entitlements. we have paid money into. and we're -- >> we're down to the last minute because the president does not want to deal wit
faces massive mandatory tax increases and federal spending cuts on january 1st. meanwhile one republican congressman says president obama wants america to go over that cliff >> it is unclear when the president will return from hawaii. staffers for both sides are expected to be communicating over the next few days >> egypt's leading opposition party says it plans to appeal the results of yesterday's constitutional referendum. preliminary results show the new constitution passed with 64- percent of the vote. but opponents say it limits their rights -- and is not legitimate because the voting procedure didn't follow guidelines. parliamentary elections are scheduled in two months -- and the opposition hopes to present a united front by then. some 68-percent of egyptians did not vote in the referendum. >> former president george h. w. bush is showing signs of recovery but may not be home to celebrate christmas with his family. he has been hospitalized since november with a brown tide is related cough. in a statement from hospital his doctors are optimistic he will make a full recovery. how
decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part ofhe discussion. that is significant development r house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is so
we're set to hit the debt ceiling new year's eve, the max amount we're allowed to spend. the current limit is $16.4 trillion. he says the obama administration will work to make sure the u.s. does not default on loans right away but the debate will be another drag on the economy. with us, the chief business correspondent for u.s. news and world report, rick newman, and author of rebounders, how winners pivot from setback to success. talk about the debt ceiling for us, first of all, welcome. talk about the debt ceiling and how it affects us. we here horror scenarios about the red -- credit rating. >> one good thing you can say about reaching the debt limit is it's not a surprise. everybody has known this is coming up. the government will continue to function for a couple more months. emergency measures will be used to keep the money flowing, so to speak. this is unrelated to the fiscal cliff, so it's an additional problem that everybody has to deal with. of course the worst thing is we know how horrible it was the last time the debt ceiling needed to be raised in the summer of 2011, it
, the district spends $5 million a year on security overall, money it would rather be spending on educating children. >>> congress has left town for the holidays. and president obama made a plea today for a bipartisan agreement to prevent going over the fiscal cliff. >> the american people are a lot more sensible and a lot more that you feel and much more willing to compromise and give and sacrifice and act responsibly than their elected representatives are. >> when congress resumes, there will be just four days to come up with an agreement. >>> the oakland school district is facing allegations of mishandling federal money. it's being told to pay back thousands of dollars. an audit was conducted after a cbs 5 investigation questioned how a private school was getting federal money. how the district is defending its actions. >> reporter: for years, this private religious school has received thousands of dollars in federal funds, $50,000 just this year doled out by the oakland unified school district. it's the school that sends its students out to bart stations to solicit money, sometimes late
is that boehner and obama's proposals really aren't that far apart right now. president obama wants $1 trillion in new taxes, john boehner has said he's willing to give $1 trillion. obama said he wants $800 billion in spending cuts, same thing for boehner. but the difference comes with the once again, the tax threshold. president obama originally said he would be willing to go with the $400,000 tax threshold. and as boehner said going off obama's words, he was willing to do it at $1 million. it comes down to what that threshold is. >> karen finney, i want to ask you about the same question, this ten days business. but i also want to amendment that question or expand it. how much damage did the republicans do last night by blowing up plan "b"? in other words, does that take them out of the power position in the negotiations? >> absolutely. because i think at this point, it's pretty clear that any kind of -- boehner could not get, what? 117 votes. so it's clear whatever happens next, he's not going to be able to rely on his own caucus to make that happen. that means, who do you need? nancy pelosi
that you could check with president obama could have on [inaudible] >> at some point we have to address the spending problem we have, but we can now cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many believe on both sides of the aisle at the fundamental reform of our tax code will help get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans with tax credit. how we get there, i do not know. all i know that we are committed to working with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, both sides of the capital and white house, to address this. >> last week, i ask you if you were concerned about losing the speakership. in light of what happened last night, if you're not concerned, should you be? >> no, i am not. you have all heard me say this. i have told my colleagues. if you do the right things every day for the right reasons, the right things will happen. while we have not been able to get the votes to avert 99.8% of the tax increases, i do not think -- they were not taking that out on me. they are dealing with a perception that somebody might accus
in washington this afternoon as a nation as close to the cliff. >> president obama top congressional leaders will look for common ground to get automatic tax increases and spending cuts from kicking in. >> their only four days to reach an agreement or you as a common goal of the so- called fiscal cliff we are here in washington working all the members of the house of rand representatives are all watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here until the president i would be happy to look at whatever he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this to the conversation we should add months ago. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more year. >> many republicans are made against any tax increases. >> russian president of vladimir putin aside a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. >> the law also blocked dozens of russian children or currently in the adoption process by american families from leaving the co
officials. secretary lahood if you could thank president obama from all of us. yes. [applause] because i know today we're going to spend a lot of precious moments thanking leader pelosi and congress women fine 79 and boxer and. >> >> we're going to thank all of our community members and from china town and all of them have worked very hard. these are not easy projects. they're very complicated and people had to work at the highest levels to make sure that every aspect worked, and a person who has worked tirelessly for 20 years and we join in celebrating 25 years of being in our congress and sought at every stage to make sure these funds were projected, to make sure we're doing our part, that congress is doing their part, all of the federal agencies, the person that first called me to share the news we're out of the white house and into the congress and wait our magical 60 to 90 days and lees give a warm welcome leader nancy pelosi. [applause] >> who is also keeping track on the giants. >> you know mr. mayor i always listen attentively to every world you say but i know you want me to sa
and spending cuts. the latest on what we can expect from today's efforts. >> the key players will give it one last shot. president obama and congressional leaders will meet this afternoon at the white house in a last-ditch effort to avoid a self-inflicted fiscal calamity. this is the first meeting between the power plays in six weeks. if they can't work out some kind of agreement automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into affected new year's day, which will impact most americans and will put the nation back into recession. >> we are coming up against a hard deadline. >> at today's meeting, president obama will push for a stop gap measure, a small deal that will at least prevent tax increases for those earning $250,000 or less. but even that seems unlikely. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> publicly, both sides have ratcheted up rhetoric, pointing the finger. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> the only reason why democrats have been trying to defect -- deflect a
have to deal with spending. we live in an america where the federal government now is spending 25% of our gross domestic product. when you study the obama budget that would increase to 32%. that's where the problem has to i am emanate from. the spending side of our budget is 62% of what we spend money on. it's not just about defense or discretionary. >> is there any indication the president's deal, that he may come back with, will address spending? i haven't heard substantial spending cuts out of any deals on the left. >> absolutely you are not hearing that whatsoever. when i listen to senator chuck schumer say the president ran on raising taxes and says he won, we should do that, i have to tell you i'm not such and idiotic person to follow someone off into the abyss. this is a political gimmick the president ran on. he did win the election but when you look at the house, the republicans maintain their majority there and that's where revenue bills emanate from. >> we have to leave it there. always great to have you. >> happy new year. >> you too. amid all this fighting in washingt
cliff. president obama and congress are on christmas vacation. it will be thursday before talks resume to try and prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect january first. andrew spencer has the latest. analysts say many shoppers haven't been in the holiday spirit when it comes to spending money. the four-day black friday weekend that started on thanksgiving was strong. sales rose 2-point-7 percent. but analysts says sales fell 4-point-3 percent for the week ending december 15th. and last week they forecasted holiday spending to decrease another 2-point- 5 percent. previous expectations were for a 3-point-3 percent increase in spending. the saint anthony foundation needs help to reach its goal of collecting 5-hundred hams during the 25th annual curbside donation drive. according to the foundation, they collected a hundred hams. that's just 20-percent of their goal. the foundation hoped to get another 400 hams sunday and today. if you would like to donate a ham you can do so at the drive. located in front of saint anthony's in san francisco's tenderloin area. from
going over that fiscal cliff. only four days to go when big tax hikes and spending cuts are scheduled to kick in. president obama came back to d.c. today. he is calling congressional leaders to the white house tomorrow. the senate was insession today but offered no new solutions. the house is still out on vaca, but they've been called back. today was pretty much blame game thursday. gary nurenberg is here with that. >> derek, the harshest words came from senate majority leader harry reid when he accused house speaker john boehner of both running a dictatorship, and then of being unable to control his caucus. bottom line with four days left -- >> i don't know, timewise, how it can happen now. >> the senate democratic leader blames republican house speaker john boehner ?ea.'s waiting until january 3rd to get re- elected as speaker before he gets serious. >> of boehner's house, reid said -- >> it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> the house remains on vacation. >> we're not working. every democrat, every republican ought to be here. >> president obama returned to d.c
. the fiscal cliff fiasco. the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up next you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, tato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negotiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu, lou: everybody is getting re ofed about the fiscal clifft, negotiation. i thought i would show you what thuld happen if we change into the speaker boehner plan, the president obama plan, let's start out with the do-nothing p
and signed by president obama. the idea being to make it so painful not to cut a deal on taxes and spending that they would be forced to cut a deal on taxes and spending. except keeping them honest, they haven't done it. even though they knew the stakes, they knew the deadline, and both sides promised that this time things would be different. >> we need to return to fiscal responsibility. >> how is it that we're going to be able to do that? getting our fiscal house in order. >> the american people have spoken loudly. they want us to get our fiscal house in order. >> fiscal handcuffs on this congress that are sorely needed. >> washington is beginning to get its fiscal house in order. >> so they approve legislation that gave everyone nearly a year and a half to reach a long-term agreement on spending and taxes or face truly punishing consequences if they didn't. you'll remember at the time this was a really big deal. republicans had forced the issue by refusing to raise the debt ceiling without budget cuts. markets went haywire. gabby giffords even returned to washington from rehab from her a
and automatic spending cuts take effect. it may take up president obama's bare bones stopgap measure. that plan would block tax hikes for those earning $250,000. it would extend unemployment benefits to 2 million americans and put off spending cuts until the new year brings a new congress. our expert on all matters relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats especially who i'm talking to in the senate which is probably where this will originate, the reality is that democrats don't hold a very big majority. her going to need to have a handful of republicans to cross party lines and vote with them on the whole concept of raising any taxes. especially what the president wants which is something that is raising taxes on all americans making more than $250,000. that's the senate. never mind the house, which of course, made clear to the house speaker that they won't even go for
now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president obama is set to meet with congressional leaders at the white house just three days before a year in deadline to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. some $600 billion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases will take effect if no agreement is reached. obama and the rest of republicans remain of the impasse over the republican refusal to allow tax hikes even for the wealthiest americans. senate majority leader on thursday accused house speaker john boehner of holding up a deal. >> the american people i don't think understand the house representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> adding to the urgency surrounding the talks, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned this week the u.s. will not be able to pay its creditors after monday unless the debt ceiling is raised. we will have more on the fiscal cliff talks, speaking with congressmember de
the president. the decision was made at the polls in november. obama has the upper hand and he wants all taxes to go up so he can spend and run this country in the ground. but gary points out, the president wants more taxes only on the well to do. so taxing the rich will not get all some may want but that does not mean they should not pay what they ought to pay, and that is what they paid in 1999. okay then, okay now. you want to pay down the national debt? put everyone to work. that was doing it 15 years ago, and that can do it now. >>> that is our broadcast for tonight. we'll hope you will be around for our broadcast at 1 1:00. i will be here with erica. we'll see you then. have a great evening. bye-bye. >>> from cheating to fist fighting to a drug overdose, the biggest celebrity scandals of 2012. >>> lindsay lohan's arrest. are you afraid your daughter's going to go back to jail? >> dena's appearance with dr. phil. >> in your little shoes. >>> demi moore's wild dancing and the frantic calls to 911. >> she's convulsing. >>> "twilight's" kristen stewart caught cheating on r-pat. >>> plus a "t
for this christmas show, one of the biggest mountains for president obama in the coming year, mountains to conquer. our 4 choices -- the continuing pressure to cut spending to slow the growth of medicare or medicaid, or dealing with iran and its nuclear program, or forging the ties he'll need for a heavy lift, the big lifts coming up for history. he needs allies. >> i like people around him for the second term. you watch second term presidents, they go downhill because people change. ronald reagan, first term, great people everywhere. then they shuffled the chairs, some people left. second term, it's on the bitberg, selling arms to iran. chris: the second team sometimes is second rate? >> that's correct and if he falls down that same rat hole, he won't do what he wants to. chris: i think sometimes they pick people they're more comfortable with. i think it's time for him to swing for the census, middle east peace, something he hasn't touched in years and how he goes about trying to assemble -- chris: looks like he's getting ready to do that? >> no. >> i wish we could end on a positive note. chris:
, the vatican. >>> president obama is in hawaii for christmas. the president is expected to spend a quiet day with his family. with the president and congress on a short holiday break, there's been no movement on fiscal cliff negotiations. before he left washington, the president said he believes a deal could be made before the december 31 deadline. >>> u.s. troops celebrated their 12th consecutive christmas in afghanistan. service men and women attended a service at the nato base in kabul, sang some carols, then enjoyed a holiday dinner. >>> and coming up on the "morning news," he may be messy funny, jack klugman from "the odd couple "has died. a look back at his remarkable career. [ female announcer ] introducing u the latest coffee machine from nespresso. modular. intuitive. combines espresso and fresh milk. the new u. nespresso. what else? available at these fine retailers. >>> firefighters in california battled a raging river yesterday to rescue a homeless man. he was living on an island in the los angeles river and got into trouble after a fast-moving storm tore through the area. rescue
's just simply saying i want a trillion dollars in spending cuts as with he will. president obama, he's close to the same number. they're about, you know, $300 billion apart. they're about 1% apart in this whole deal, so i don't think it's fair to just attack the democrats somehow as wanting to go over the cliff. >> well, the problem is, they're not really putting any spending cuts on the table. what they are doing, they're putting some proposed possible cuts, but the stimulus spending they're putting on the table also offsets that. and just for argument's sake, let's say we give the president every single tax increase that he wants. we're still looking at a trillion-dollar deficit, so that just goes to show we have to have some serious entitlement reform and spending cuts in this and right now we don't have them. there are talks about them and there are some accounting fuzzy math going on, but there's not any serious entitlement reform and we can't just kuwait and talk about that -- wait and talk about that in january. it needs to be included in any package before we go forward. >> j
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for sanctions against russian s who violate human rights. >>> president obama will immediate -- meet with leaders from capitol hill hoping to avoid the fiscal cliff. spending cuts and tax hikes will go into effect unless lawmakers can broker a deal. >> reporter:cx$z president obama will4zkn:eÑ with congressional leaders later today at the white house. it may be too late for a deal. there are just four days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. >> i have to be honest mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now.((?u >> reporter: harry reid lashed out at house speaker bane area out at house speaker bane area caution him ofrm" dictatorship. >> boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: republicans blame democrats. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank cheque or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> reporter: president obama flew home early from his speaker boehner call the house bac
. >> on the subject of travel. president obama and the entire family left this evening to spend christmas holiday in hawaii. not clear when they will return. the president only saying that since a deal has not been reached to avert sought called fiscal cliff, he would be coming back to washington after christmas. >> so where did that leave things terms of the fiscal cliff? here's l jonathan karl. >> congress not a creature is stirring. no deal is in sight. with deadline looming and seemingly no hope anywhere, the president made one last appeal tonight before washington goes on vacation. >> as we leave town for a few days to be with our families, through the holidays, everybody can cool off. everybody can tl drink some egg nog. now is not the time for more self inflicted wounds. certainly not those coming from washington. >>reporter: but the 2 sides don't even seem to be trying any more. what are we going to do now. >> i'm interested in solving the major problems that face our country. and that means house leaders senate leaders and the president are going to continue to have to work toge
. in other news, u.s. president barack obama has broken off his christmas vacation to resume talks on the so-called fiscal cliff, taxes and spending cuts unless democrats and republicans reach a deal by new year's eve. >> nearly all the major players in those negotiations are starting to agree on one thing, and that is that a deal is virtually impossible by that deadline. senior officials say there is little hope of a grand bargain to shave trillions of dollars off of america's mountain of debt. >> applause for the bell at the start of the trading day is a daily ritual at the new york stock exchange, despite the enthusiasm, traders are keeping an anxious eye on share prices. the fiscal cliff is on everyone's mind. u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner has warned that his department will need to take extraordinary measures to postpone the upcoming government defaults. he plans adjustments to the national budget that would give the u.s. two months of grace. president barack obama has said he is still hopeful that a resolution can be reached this year. he cut short his vacation in hawaii to
, the spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff. president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in fairly short order? >> compromise, i'm not so sure we'll see that. but i was told by a republican senator and democratic senator that the pr indicated before he left for hawaii that he, the president, is expected to send a piece of legislation up today with his scaled back tax plan. that's something that the president outlined in general terms on the friday before he left for hawaii and since then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the leg
it all. >> sean: and where is obama? >> there is no revenue problem it is a spending problem. we have revenue and spending problems right now. it is a slow slope out of this and that is what the president is trying to do to the tune of $4 trillion. >> sean: but joe, stop! four years he has had here and given us $6 trillion in debt. he is trying? he is not cutting spending. >> the revenues got wiped out -- revenues got hit because of the -- because of the recession. that is his part of the problem. that is true. there s a small part there at least. >> sean hannity does any of this create new jobs? we are talking about 2 cents on the dollar. does this deal, joe trippi, create one private sector american job? the answer is no. this is playing to the most extreme liberal base. creates no jobs. explodes the deficit. hurts middle class employment. none has anything to do with the problem that we have which is number one in revenue we are spending too much and number two job creation. none of this helps either one of those things joe trippi and you know that is true. >> i don't know that is
stocking. higher taxes, lawmakers and president obama have left washington for christmas with no deal on tax hikes and spending cuts set to go in effect after the first of the year. brianna keilar is live in hawaii where the president is spending the christmas holiday. brianna, the president maybe a little too optimistic that a deal can be reached? aloha, by the way. >> he did say last night that he is a hopeless optimist that something can get done, but what we know, it's not going to be that big package, obviously of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to
president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i wanted to break this down simply because there's so much that complicates the story. let's look really quickly at a graphic of the basics, what's happening right now. here's where we stand with the fiscal c
and that is not a concern. president obama is there spending time with his family for the holiday and yesterday he went golfing before heading to the beach with the first lady and their daughters. aides say the president will have to return to washington in a day or two to deal with you know what the fiscal crisis. chief house correspondented spayeed henry is in hawaii with the president. i assume if there were any conversations between the president and the speaker we would be advised. >> they say there have not been any more calls, no contact between the high school and the speaker. that is a sign that there's been no major progress. they say that the lines of communication are still open between the president's staff, the peaker's staff. also now the circle is widening a little bit and it's including senate staff, because given what happened late last week where speaker boehner's so-called plan b fail in the house there is now momentum to try and get something going in the senate right after christmas and maybe possible something there, some sort of a stop-gap measure, hope they can pass it in the h
to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour notice. they are very much out there in play. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. when the senate returns tomorrow morning, there will be a new emphasis on members taking a larger role in the fiscal cliff negotiations that based off the current offer m
with that. >> alice, you say you believe president obama and democratic congressional leaders prefer to go over the cliff so they can raise taxes, cut defense spending and blame the gop but republicans have the option of locking in tax cuts for most americans right now. >> to further that note, sure, i think the president wants to do this because as you said he can increase taxes, continue cuts on the military and point the finger at the republicans. the truth of the matter is we need to have serious spending cuts. this is not an issue that will be resolved with taxing either way. we need to address serious spending issue swres in the country. the truth is boehner and house republicans pointed out the house issued legislation that would extend the current tax -- the bush-era tax cuts and erase military cuts. it is in the senate's hands and they need to act on that. something that came up this afternoon that is critical and a reminder in the entire scenario. secretary geithner issued a letter today warning the country we are going to hit the debt ceiling on new year's eve. this is a stark r
and cut spending continued to separate democrats and republicans. president obama called on house speaker john boehner to come back to the negotiating table and avoid the "fiscal cliff." >> as of today, i am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done. >> the remarks came after speaker boehner failed to gather enough of his party's support to bring his so-called plan b to the floor for a vote. his proposal would have effectively raised taxes only on those americans making more than a million dollars a year. house and senate members will be back at the capital on december 27th looking for that solution. >>> wall street worried about the "fiscal cliff" talks, stocks closed sharply lower today. the dow dropped more than 120 points. the nasdaq fell 29 points. the s&p dropped, as well. >>> california cannot stop people from using the so-called conversion therapy to try to turn gay minors straight. the federal appeals court issued an emergency order late this afternoon putting the law banning the therapy on hold. the law was the first of its kind set to take effect january 1. li
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